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As noted in this question, we sometimes get a message in the close vote review queue that:

This question has been flagged as notification

However, there is no "Vote to Close" system option stating:

This question does not appear to be about home improvement within the scope defined in the help center.

As noted in the comments on BMitch's answer to that question, we can change our close options to suit our needs.

Since we already have a "Needs details or clarity" close reason on the main "Why should this question be closed" page:

Close reasons

I would suggest that we replace the "Not enough information" on the "community specific" selection:

Community specific close reasons

With the "not in scope" message noted above.

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    No takers? I'm hurt... :(
    – FreeMan
    Oct 20 at 17:19
  • Dang, not even a way to add a bounty to get people to look at it? @mods, we've got at least two people who think this is a good idea, and there don't seem to be any who don't think it's good, can we move based on that?
    – FreeMan
    Nov 10 at 15:41
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    Given only 20 views and only 1 up-vote, this feels really light on any community support for the idea. Ideally we'd have an answer posted with several up-votes saying "yes, please do this" and without a dissenting answer. Right now this unfortunately feels ignored.
    – BMitch Mod
    Nov 10 at 16:20
  • Sigh. You're right, @BMitch. However, given an average of 94 and a median of only 41 views across the 47 questions I see on the Top Questions page, and 2 significant outliers (422 & 887 views). It's not bad! :) Removing the outliers drops the average view rate to only 69. Meta doesn't seem to be well attended in general - I know I've spent more time here in the last 60 days or so than, well, probably ever.
    – FreeMan
    Nov 10 at 16:38
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    Meta is always lower traffic than the main site. Remember if it doesn't work out, just revert.
    – Criggie
    Nov 10 at 18:29
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    FWIW the "not in scope" is the generic, catch-all reason used when there is no one close reason with a majority of votes. It is not intended particularly to be a specific reason that can be chosen, because it is not, well, particularly useful in terms of educating users.
    – TylerH
    Nov 15 at 14:35
  • That's very true, @TylerH, but we don't have that generic "not in scope" option to select. However, we do sometimes get the "not suitable for this site" flag that shows up in the blue box. I'm not even sure where that comes from since "not suitable for this site" is NOT a flag option, and the text is far too consistent for it to be people typing in a comment in the "other" box on the flag screen.
    – FreeMan
    Nov 15 at 14:39
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    @FreeMan Sorry, I may not have been clear. Both of those occur when the system is presented with no majority reason for closure... even if only prescribed reasons where chosen. If two users pick reason X, two users pick reason Y, and one user picks reason Z, the system doesn't have a majority reason, and so it defaults to this generic one (the "not suitable for this site: it's not in scope per the help center"). In the past, it used to list each reason chosen and show who picked each reason. The Close Vote redesign a year or so ago was a big regression in that regard, IMHO.
    – TylerH
    Nov 15 at 15:06
  • @FreeMan However, to your point, I see there appears to be one vote (and it's a flag, rather than an actual vote, too) that put the question in the queue, and it's giving that reasoning... I'm not at all sure how the system decided to show that reasoning. We'd have to ask Lisa Park or another staff member involved with that redesign to explain why (or maybe just a CM would know).
    – TylerH
    Nov 15 at 15:08
  • When I see these come up and I VtC, I don't see any VtC reason actually selected. I end up copying the text & pasting it into the "Other" reason, as noted in the original question. Maybe I need to take a moment to look at the question history before I do that.
    – FreeMan
    Nov 15 at 18:46
  • That close reason obviously needs more detail or clarity. +1 @BMitch - only saw this because I was in chat. Pin to main site?
    – Mazura
    Nov 20 at 22:31
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This seems like a good idea. I support your suggestion.

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    – Criggie
    Nov 10 at 23:30
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I disagree, but for a different reason.

"Needs Clarity" is the old "Unclear" reason. It's a stock closure across all sites. Our "Not enough information" one is indeed too similar as-is. I think, however, it merely needs a verbiage update.

Images or other details needed. This question needs more details to offer an answer. A picture or diagram of the subject may suffice, as it can add details that might not otherwise seem important.

I would say maybe 60-75% of all the questions that get closed could benefit greatly from an image. A closure reason that explicitly spells that out would be helpful.

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No. I don't want to change the close reasons this way.

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